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wutangswords Seasoned Pro

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| Posted: 16 May 2008 at 22:00 | IP Logged
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I don't know if I'd like to learn self defence.
i do want to learn a practical martial art but it's not just for self defense, I would also like to be skilled at one. I just don;t want to learn one or learn badly from a gym a martial art that won't help me in real life. I understand where your coming from though.
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sexsquatch Seasoned Pro


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| Posted: 25 May 2008 at 19:55 | IP Logged
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Many martial arts really don't work well for most peope in a fight situation, ie the high kicks of tae-kwon-do not because they can't work but more usually because it takes years of dedication and hard training to really get adequate. for something relatively quick, easy to learn and that can be effective the military arts, like Krav Maga, Systema, or the new U.S system H2H are all designed to teach soldiers to be able to fight effectively with the least amount of time spent training.
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bilsim New Member

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| Posted: 30 May 2008 at 10:24 | IP Logged
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MOST martial arts will teach you they are the most deadly, I think it;s more a case of being the most effective. hand and kick blocks applied in something like kung fu can be more gentle and less effective than those applied in judo, but in a street fight, I'd rather have a knowledge of Kung Fu open strikes than Judo holds and throws. It's all dependant, the most deadly is probably the Isreali S.A.S who teach that every block will kill, i.e a basic hand block is block, strike and keep striking until your assailant is dead.
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rere Seasoned Pro


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| Posted: 30 May 2008 at 14:29 | IP Logged
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hahahaha like the chain punch in wing chun lol
keep punching until the assailant is down
i love the no holds bar of the style too, i hate violence now so i decided to stop, but who knows what the future might bring i may take it up again.
I think wing chun is the most deadliest if you use it right and stop showing off!!
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drederick_tatum Seasoned Pro


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i think wing chun isnt too effective. i did try it many moons ago and the style (mine seemed very 'traditional') had nothing below the waist. ie, the kicks were poor, and it did not cater for takedowns or any kind of thug style 'rugby tackle' that is common in a streetfight. we learned a number of traps combined with strikes, in hindsight all were pretty useless (try bong sau on a full power right cross left hook and you;ll see what i mean).
although impressive for their range, the strikes lacked any real power, and dont give me any of that one inch punch sh*t, the 28 inch punch is a hell of a lot more powerful!
the argument has been said soooooooooo many times.
why arent there any decent mma fighters whose base is wing chun? boxing, thai boxing, bjj, freestyle, greco-roman, judo-yes, wing chun-no. it is just fighting after all!
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ah_dut Moderator Group


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| Posted: 31 May 2008 at 18:44 | IP Logged
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Agreed but the wing chun that works (read people like Alan Orr) looks like dirty boxing. And yes, I am a chunner.
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drederick_tatum Seasoned Pro


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just looked up alan orr, saw him on youtube in an amateur mma fight, and also one of his students in a pro mma fight, both won, but it didnt look like wing chun to me! looked like mma!
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ah_dut Moderator Group


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| Posted: 02 June 2008 at 21:24 | IP Logged
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As I said, their standup looks like dirty boxing and their groundwork looks like Catch Wrestling/BJJ.
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rere Seasoned Pro


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| Posted: 05 June 2008 at 14:48 | IP Logged
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lol all this martial arts lol
well i suppose it depends on what you want to do i guess i found out wing chun helped me a great deal and i won a few "street fights" with ease, i suppose it all depends on your opponent at the time of the fight.
after all it only takes that one punch to knock someone out!
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BlyssfullyHated New Member


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to say which martial art is more deadly is like asking which is more deadly between a hammer and a gun... XP and as far as choosing one, you really should try a few of them out and check out videos about them, because that way you can see what you would be doing and judge how much you like it.
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