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Robbie Training Hard


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| Posted: 01 September 2005 at 23:01 | IP Logged
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Is anybody here any good at ground fighting? (any style)
I am just starting out and wondering what people have found is the best way to get fit for ground fighting? (apart from lots of ground fighting!) I really am looking for people that have actually done a lot of ground fighting for advice on this one! Only reply if you have some experience!
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rattankid Seasoned Pro

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| Posted: 02 September 2005 at 00:14 | IP Logged
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the better your cardio gets, the longer you can roll. i see a direct correlation between aerobic capacity and training time. when i started bjj, i was gassed after 10-15 mins of sparring. the more i work on my 'wind', the more i can train. flexibility (decreased muscle resistance) is my next project. hindu squats, running, rope skipping, all give you wind and hips.
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Irko Training Hard

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| Posted: 04 September 2005 at 21:43 | IP Logged
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I've done judo for the past 4 years and sessions at my club are split
50/50 between ground and standing. My personal opinion would be to work
on your anaerobic capability. The problem is not steadily moving all
the time such as in swimming or running so it is not aerobic fitness
that you need to work on mainly, it is the endurance and recovery from
bursts of intense activity (anaerobic fitness). i.e. grappling for
position, holding position, grappling for position, holding position,
prying on the arm-bar, scrambling for position, holding position, etc.
I could not recommend "the ultimate burpee" (look it up in google for
pictures and detailed descriptions) highly enough. Its like a squat
thrust, squat and press up all in one rep. It in my opinion is the
finest whole body cardio exercise. Start by doing 100 a day with a
short term goal of 200 a day and a long term goal of 300-400 a day.
Start with sets of 25 reps and aim for 50-100 reps per set. Feel free
to switch the press-up in every rep to something else (i.e. wide arms,
close arms, diamond, etc). Work towards a quick and steady pace, before
long your anaerobic and aerobic endurance should shoot up.
--Irko
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vikingar Seasoned Pro


Joined: 04 September 2005 Location: United Kingdom
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ive been grappling and training vale tudo for a few years, i did
muay thai only before that. the type of fitness needed seems to be
completely different, i was ok with stand up, but when i first started
grappling i was gassed easily. the best thing to do is roll- you need
to build your mat fitness and learn how to relax and breathe properly
on the mat. on the side, you need to get the balance right- too much
weights will make you stiff and slower, if you dont do any resistance
training you may lack power. i do basic weightlifting twice a week,
bench, squats, pull ups etc. and the rest of my supplementary training
consists of skipping, calisthenics and bag work. sprints are really
good for explosiveness, so, depending on what suits you, try different
stuff and see what works- just remember to get the balance between
anaroebic and aerobic right and your onto a winner!
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administrator Admin Group


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| Posted: 16 September 2005 at 19:07 | IP Logged
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You can drill ground fighting by yourself. My old kung fu instructors motto used to be "repetition, repetition, repetition".
I've got an article somewhere, PM me your email and I'll try to dig it out for you.
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Deimos Seasoned Pro


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| Posted: 17 September 2005 at 01:13 | IP Logged
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Strength+Stamina.
Real strength, not gym strength though.
I recommend you read up on the Hindu Wrestler "Gama", who kicked the ass of many "supposedly best" western champions from both Europe and America.
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ah_dut Moderator Group


Joined: 04 June 2005 Location: United Kingdom
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| Posted: 19 September 2005 at 18:04 | IP Logged
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Well I guess the burpee is excellent here...I am not a person who does
much groundfighting but I have seen it do wonders in my friends who
take judo
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sexsquatch Seasoned Pro


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I'd agree most with Irko here.. anaerobic training, with circuit training and groundfighting itself being your best training tools.
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